a rose is a rose

Most of the edible berries in southeast Alaska are roses of some sort, the rest are the Vacinnium family like blueberries and bog cranberries. The roses have big showy flowers the Vacinnium little bell shaped flower.
This is the flower from a raspberry in my yard, 5 petals, many stamens, flowers on last years' cane and has prickles.
This is a Thimbleberry flower, 5 petals many stamens, flowers on old cane and no prickles. Fruit is like a raspberry but in my mind the definition of pithy. Mushy and little flavor. Great big palmate leaves (like a maple) Aggressive pain in the ass weed that spreads in a sneaky underground rooty way.
Salmon Berry flower...see a pattern here? 5 petals, many stamens. Fruit is raspberry like but sometimes red sometimes yellow. Colors might be an adaptation to keep birds from eating the ripe fruit, the yellow ones don't look 'ripe'. Some people (thimbleberry lovers?) don't like the fruit, it can be watery and sort of flavorless if it's not ripe.
Last but not least by a long shot is strawberries. Everyone else in this story is a tall showy plant that flowers on old woody canes. Strawberries live close to the ground but have that same 5 petal flower with many stamens. The only fruit I know of with the seeds on the outside...and oh so tasty!

I'll snag a picture of the wild roses that grow around here, generally called Sitka or Nootka rose, they have the same flowers but a wonderful rose scent that the others don't have. Bees frequent the Sitka rose and the strawberry, but usually it's flies on the other flowers.